Q&A: Jeep YJ & TJ Wrangler Axles, Transmissions and Transfer
Rebuild Goes Sideways
From: Pat S.
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:24 AM
Subject: Transmission gears
Hello, I recently felt ambitious enough to
replace the synchros in my 2004 jeep wrangler (4.0L with 5spd manual; nv3550); all was going well in terms of the
tear down and disassembly until I got to the removal of the 3rd gear on the input shaft. I used the wrong puller by
accident (OTC 1128 instead of the 1130). The end result I chipped 2nd and 3rd input gears and making the job a
touch more expensive. I was wondering If you sold those gears by chance and how much they would
Thanks in advance,
Hi, Pat…Sorry to hear of your gear
dilemma. Lesson learned, enough said there.
As for NV3550 gear parts, I do not sell
parts. I quickly found a source, though. You may be able to do better through Jeep/Mopar at the local
dealership level. The part numbers in the aftermarket look OEM (Jeep/Mopar), so that’s helpful. 2nd
gear, if needed, does appear expensive.
Another approach: Advance Adapters is a direct dealer for New
Venture and may have access to parts…A/A has also offered complete NV3550 transmissions—new.
Try Advance Adapters. Share that I suggested you call.
Let me know if you need more
Transmission Appropriate Lubricant
From: Dodge Dakota AX15
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 2:14 PM
Subject: Info please
I have a '98 Dodge Dakota with the 2.5L engine and the AX 15 trans. If you could answer please: My AX 15 has always
been hard to get into 2nd gear when cold as it warms up she shifts fine I don’t think it’s a syncro as as it warms
up she shifts good.
What is causing the hard shifting when cold?
Also is it a problem that will get worse or stay the same as I said it has been like this for years. One other
problem I have had from day one is its just impossible to get into reverse usually it takes 5 to 15 tries to
finally get it into reverse the most frustrating thing about this trans.
Thanks for any info you may provide me.
Hi, Jeff…We’re going to be optimists in this
case and assume that your synchros have not been damaged by wear or the balky cold shifts. The AX15 is
hypersensitive to lubricant type and viscosity. It sounds like you have the wrong lube, which could be either
too stiff when cold or incorrect viscosity.
Mopar actually used a private label approach
with the AX5 and AX15, bottling a lube under a Mopar part number. That lube has been available for years
through Jeep dealerships and likely Dodge-Ram. See if you can find the recommended Mopar lube. If not,
the spec for the lube is 75W-90 API Grade GL-3, according to the Jeep factory manual for 1998. 4WD models take
3.27 qt. or 3.10 liters. 2WD models take 3.15 liters or 3.32 quarts.
Another possibility, a less likely long shot,
is a hydraulic clutch system that either leaks down or needs bleeding. Try the lube first, especially if the
current lube is not what I described above.
If a change of lube does not cure the problem,
we can move to the next step…Let me know how this turns out!
From: Jeff with AX15
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 6:25 PM
To: 4WD Q & A
Subject: Re: Info please
Well, you will not like this but I use the Mobil 1 75W-90 GL-5, the stuff that supposedly eats up the brass syncros
its been in my trans for 4 years. I never force the shift I take it easy on it till it warms up usually only a 5
minute drive does it then it shifts easy.
Oh, by the way even with the stock dealer oil in it it would do the same thing that’s why I changed to the Mobil 1
oil and it did show a small improvement in my shifting.
I have been thinking of replacing it with Redline MTL or MT 90 the MTL for cold weather my clutch is 3 years old so
its nothing to do with the clutch.
It’s a 2WD not a 4X4. I like my 2.5 and AX-15 Dakota.
From: 4WD Q & A
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:55 AM
To: Jeff S.
Subject: RE: Info please
Jeff, the problem I’ve found with synthetics is that they work “too well”. Too much lubricity prevents the
synchro rings from providing braking action, and there is clash on shifts. I’ve not heard of synchros being
eaten up, but that would occur if they constantly balk; the damage would be on the teeth, not the braking
I’ve had good luck with the Mopar
branded oil for AX5 and AX15 transmissions. (I also like Mobil synthetic products.) My choice in a case
like this is the Mopar oil, however, as this transmission is known for lube sensitivity.
From: Jeff S.
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:09 AM
To: 4WD Q & A
Subject: Re: Info please
That’s way different from every Jeep forum I have ever read concerning the AX-15 the majority say MT 90 is the best
thing for the AX-15 now some say just use regular Mobile 1 30W engine oil is the best others say syncromesh is the
I would say the MT 90 is recommended the most. I know when you talk any kind of oil things can get heated everyone
claims what they use is the best. The Mobil 1 75W-90 has been good so far except when it gets cold outside then it
shifts harder for about 5 to 10 minutes I just don’t force it till it warms up and in Arizona you don’t get too
many cold days and nights.
Eliminating Vacuum Disconnect at Front Axle of YJ
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:40 AM
Subject: Welding slide gear
gear on my 91 yj Jeep it is a Dana 30 reverse cut axle in the front, on the passenger side it has a two piece axle
there is a air activated fork that slides a gear over the two of them to make it a one piece axle, so my question
is can the slide gear be welded so it stays as a one piece axle all the time? Thanks for your time and thoughts
describe the vacuum disconnect axle shaft, right side. Years ago, I dealt with this problem by installing a
one-piece Superior Axle & Gear axle shaft and making a simple cover plate for the vacuum control opening.
The issue is that this setup places the axle shaft seal outboard of the vacuum shifter. The Dana 30 without
the vacuum shift unit has both axle shaft seals at the inboard ends of the axle shaft. On models without the
vacuum disconnect, you remove the differential carrier and ring gear to install the inboard axle shaft
At the time I did
this modification, the retrofit axle shaft did not have a machined surface outboard of the vacuum shifter. I
polished the axle shaft at the section outboard of the vacuum shifter and installed a seal at that point in the
axle housing, the same seal position as the factory seal. I picked a seal by the O.D. of the original axle
shaft seal, with the I.D. matched to the polished section on the axle shaft. Finding a seal was not an issue,
double-lip oil seals can be found in most any I.D./O.D. You provide the shaft diameter to determine the seal
I.D. size; catalog listings account for proper oil sealing tension.
& Gear lists an axle shaft for the ’87-up XJ Cherokee and YJ Wrangler under part number DC6115 for
27-spline. They also offer 30-spline and other options. Give them a ring at 1-888-845-0470 and ask tech
how they deal with the XJ Cherokee and YJ Wrangler vacuum shifter axle shaft, specifically, how they handle the
right side axle shaft seal issue for that conversion. These axle shafts fit a number of models, as the length and
inner spline design is common.
Let me know if
Superior is polishing or machining the one-piece axle shaft to accommodate your outboard axle shaft seal. If
the Superior axle shaft solves the problem, making the cover plate is simple enough. Use 1/8” or so
sheet metal, cut to size, round the corners, match and drill bolt holes in the plate.
Transmission Synchro Ring Positions
From: Bert H.
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 4:25 PM
Subject: AX15 rebuild
First of all, I would like to thank you
for your detailed online AX15 rebuild guide. The instructions and illustrations proved very
I have done a complete rebuild of my
1997 Jeep TJ including transfer case and transmission. I also rebuilt a 6.5L GM diesel and installed into the
Jeep using Novak adapter plate to the AX15. The conversion has gone quite well for the most part, but I have
an issue with the transmission rebuild that I would like your input.
I replaced all bearings and synchros as
well as 1st and
2nd gear to tighten
up the thrust clearances to within spec. However, now that I am mobile I find that the shift lever “pops” out
of 5th gear upon
deceleration. The feel of the stickshift is like the 5th synchro sleeve is not engaging
completely. I tried tightening up the detent springs by putting a small washer behind the detent plugs but
that didn’t help any.
I noticed on the exploded view on the
4WD website shows the 5th synchro may or may not be the same as the 3rd/4th synchros (2 possible part numbers). Mine
seemed to be identical. Would there be a visible difference if I were incorrect? I used synthetic 75W90 GL-5
Any suggestions would be
Hi, Bert…Pleased that the instructions proved
helpful, this is a “textbook” approach that adheres to AX15 OEM guidelines…To save you a great deal of time, I pulled out the 1997 Mopar Parts Catalog and copied the AX15
Click here for a PDF download of the 11
pages. The best feature of PDF is that you can
zoom into the images and text to get sharp detail…Do so in this case, and you will find useful information
According to the parts listings, synchro blocking rings are different all along the gear
train. Trust that this information helps, Bert.
Slipping out of gear is usually caused by shift fork misalignment or insufficient movement
of the fork, a loose synchro clutch hub, synchro keys and springs not holding the clutch hub outer sleeve,
worn or mis-assembled detents, parts in the wrong sequence or a loose parts/clearance issue. Proper end play
or clearance between the synchro hub and the gear(s) or thrusts is important.
A “wrong synchro ring” causes grinding on the shift but generally does not cause slipping
out of gear. The sleeve not centering on the hub or the hub floating on the shaft (with too much end
clearance) are more likely causes.
I am very curious about your 6.5L diesel installation and want to know how the project
turns out. The AX15 and 231 transfer case behind a 6.5L is an interesting approach…Keep me posted,
Moses adds this footnote...
Bert, regarding your description of the symptoms, if the
synchro ring is too big in diameter, the sleeve would not be able to slide over the ring teeth. This would also
prevent the sleeve from properly engaging the teeth on the 5th gear. The synchro ring pressed against
the hub of 5th gear might
actually spin the gear. When you decelerate, force reverses slightly, which breaks the synchro ring loose from
the 5th gear hub.
The transmission goes to neutral.
A test for this is to see how little movement of the shifter is needed to disengage
5th gear. If
very little, there is insufficient engagement of the sleeve with the 5th gear synchro teeth. This could
indicate a synchro (blocking) ring problem as described.
One more scenario: Typically, when a shaft is rocking (like loose pilot bearings), it will
kick a synchro sleeve out of engagement with the gear teeth. A synchro ring rocking between the synchro
hub and the gear hub could create a similar issue. The synchro ring would tilt under deceleration and
kick the sleeve back to the neutral position on the synchro hub.
The wrong size synchro ring could cause this trouble. Since there is no parts
reference to diameters, depth, thickness or inner braking surface angle, you’d need to lay the correct
synchro rings alongside each other to make sense of the 5th gear issue. One clue is that
5th gear does not
feel fully in position at the shift lever.
Compare a set of synchro rings before disassembling the transmission. Try to pinpoint
the 5th gear issue.
Let me know what you find.—Moses
Transmission Needs Cooling Lines!
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 12:56 PM
Subject: Why not hook up the transmission to the cooler in the bottom of the
I have a 97
TJ Jeep automatic transmission 4x4...Someone has disconnected the transmission lines that go to the radiator. Is
there any reason for this? I thought they should be reconnected. The nipples are there. They had just put a fuel
hose 'U' shape on the 2 lines....
Yes, Gary, you do
need these lines connected…These lines go to the cooler inside the radiator. Even though the radiator has hot
coolant, this is still a place to dissipate high heat from the transmission fluid. The fluid runs inside the
transmission cooler, isolated from the engine coolant.
pressure checking the cooler in the radiator before attaching the lines. Make sure there is not a leak from
the coolant into the cooler and vice versa. Once you know that the cooler works okay, you can hook up the
As a final
thought, why were the lines disconnected? Is the radiator plugged or in need of service? If so,
consider servicing or flushing the radiator before attaching the lines. There might be a reason for the
A radiator shop
can perform tests or “rod” (clean) the radiator if necessary…
Trust this helps,
3-Speed 'RH' Automatic
From: Joop D.
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 9:56 AM
To: '4WD Q & A'
Subject: RE: Automatic Transmission problems
Just thought I'd give you a quick update. Over the winter I changed the oil and oil filter in my '99 TJ Wrangler
automatic transmission. So I hoped this would cure the knocking sound. But when we started driving again it came
back, not all the time, just now and then. Mostly on hot days.
I remembered an article on a Jeep forum about loose bolts on the flexplate. There were also some YouTube videos
with the exact same tapping noise, and loose bolts on the flexplate should be the fix.
So this afternoon I removed the dust cover and found out that the bolts of the flexplate were just hand tight. They
came loose very easily. I had also read in that Jeep forum to torque them down to 110 ft-lbs, so I used a torque
wrench to tighten them up. I did not go as far as 110, afraid I would break the bolts. It’s a lot tighter than
before, that’s for sure!
I took the Jeep out for a test drive, and the sound wasn’t there. The car runs at 2000 rpm at 60 mph, and that is
quiet and fuel-efficient on the highway. I think I will stick to my present gearing for now.
I included a photo of the Jeep.
Joop, this is great, what an easy fix! I
suggest taking the time to put Loctite 242 or even 271 (red) on the bolt threads. Otherwise, the loosening
might happen again. The correct torque for the 32/30RH torque converter-to-flexplate bolts is actually much
lower than 110 ft. lbs. Here are the factory settings (directly from my 1998 Jeep TJ official Chrysler shop
manual) for various torque converter types:
1) 9.5” diameter 3-lug
torque converter—40 ft. lbs.
2) 9.5” diameter 4-lug
torque converter—55 ft. lbs.
3) 10.0” diameter 4-lug
torque converter—55 ft. lbs.
4) 10.75” diameter with
4-lug torque converter—270 in. lbs. or 23 ft. lbs.
5) The flexplate (“drive
plate”) to crankshaft bolts require only 55 ft. lbs. torque for your Jeep engine.
6) The 110 ft. lbs. is
for manual transmission flywheel-to-crankshaft bolts.
Note: I recommend
thread locker on any of these bolts.
Good that you did not follow the forum advice,
or the threads would be stripped for sure. The best way to judge the torque setting limit is the size of the
bolt stud and thread pitch. Bolts are likely Grade 8 (U.S.) or 10.9 metric. I have charts for torque if
there is doubt here. We can decide correct torque based upon the dimensions of the bolt threads and the
grading. Take the time to add the thread locker compound, you can do this one bolt at a
The Jeep is really good looking, Joop...Pleased
to share your photo!
Front Bearing Retainer: Conversion to External Slave Cylinder
Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:39 AM
Subject: YJ Jeep (1993) clutch external slave conversion project help!!
Hi. I finally
got some money ($1500 budget) to convert my internal clutch slave on the AX-15 bellhousing to an external slave,
but I'm not sure how to determine the precise parts numbers list, so I can go order the parts (before finding a
competent mechanic in Northern California/Bay Area to do the job for me). Can you assist please?
I know that I need the AX-15 bellhousing w/ external slave from a 94-95 Wrangler that has the crankshaft position
sensor in the 10 o'clock position. I'm not sure of the other parts though. Finally, how can I track down all of the
part numbers for the 94-95 Wrangler conversion parts that I will need for my 93 YJ conversion project?
- Sam M
Hi, Sam…You’re on
the right track if you want to do the conversion. The front bearing retainer for the external slave has been
available from Advance Adapters, and they likely can walk you through the rest of the pieces needed as well.
Give Advance Adapters a call, talk to tech at 1-800-350-2223. If you have further questions after that
conversation, please feel free to write me again…
Rebuild: Try a Heating Pad!
Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:08 PM
Subject: AX-15 rebuild help
following your rebuild page for my AX-15 transmission. So far so good, but now I've removed the front bearing and
counter gear bearing snap rings, but the front bearing lip won't clear the front case to separate from the
Can you offer any help to get this case free?
the gear assembly is binding, the two front bearings should move inward through the case at the same pace—as you
tap both the input gear and the counter gear from the bearing retainer end. Bearings should stay on these
Note that in my
#22, #23 and #24 illustrations, the geartrain slides out of the front case intact, with all gears and shafts still
in alignment. If the counter gear bearing moves without the input gear moving an equal amount, a parts bind
Let me know if
these comments help…We can discuss this further.
Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:32 PM
To: 4WD Q & A
Subject: RE: AX-15 rebuild help
I figured it
out! It was just a bit to cold in my garage, so the case was contracted some. I put a heating pad on it and it
freed up with a little tap. Thanks for the quick response, and the great write-up.
Good job, Colin! Pleased to share your tip with others! Enjoy the magazine…
Wrangler 32RH Transmission Woes
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:53 AM
Subject: Automatic Transmission problems
The problem that mr H. Wooders describe is the same problem that I heard twice in my ’99 3-speed auto Jeep TJ.
Like mr H. Wooders I am planning on changing the automatic oil and filter and perhaps build in a cooler, but
perhaps this wont help at all.
Has mr H Wooders solved his problem? And if so, what was the defect?
Thank you for any help and information.
3-speed a 30/32RH design? If so, the oil and filter change with a careful band adjustment would be the place to
start. For the 30/32RH, see my article on Sonnax upgrades in the automatic transmission workshop section of
the magazine…The AW-4 with overdrive (XJ Cherokee models) has no band adjustment.
Let me know what
develops after servicing the transmission…
Rebuild by the Article!
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:46 PM
Subject: 1991 Jeep YJ AX-15 5th gear
I am in the
process of rebuilding my ax-15 transmission, thanks to your very detailed article describing each and every step. I
ordered parts to replace all blocking rings, bearings, seals, all items that you recommended. Most parts did come
from 4wd hardware as you recommended, I have used 4wd and quadratec for several years for my many jeep projects. My
question involves the fifth gear counter synchronizer assembly. Apparently, around 1991 and serial number 00705124,
a change was made to this assembly. My case is stamped with 00605444. The 4wd website indicates that the synchro
springs for the serial numbers before 00705124 will be the same for 1st,2nd, and 5th Gears. There are also
different syncho keys and the ring itself is different again based on your serial number. I ordered my parts for
the “before serial number 00705124” from 4wd website. The syncho springs came in bags labeled 1st,2nd, 5th . They
are much too large to fit in the 5th gear hub. The old original springs are the same size as the 3rd and 4th gear
springs. I also ordered the new keys from 4wd, they do not match my original parts either. I did discover that the
picture of the syncho keys for the “after 00705124” do match my original keys and the springs seem to be the same
as 3rd and 4th for “after 00705124”. This is very confusing, I know! I have since re-ordered a complete 5th gear
counter update kit with new counter gear and hub along with new springs and keys. Can you shed any light on this
mystery? What was the update? Did the size of the synchro hub change? Did the tooth count change? My counter gear
has 47 teeth. The only problem this transmission had was fifth gear, it would not go into 5th gear at normal speed.
It would shift smoothly while idling.
very much for your help on this issue as well as all of your helpful articles,
mystery, indeed…Did you purchase the YJ new?
There are many
instances where transitions to a new design take place in stages. Without drifting far from your issue, I recall
the “upgrading” of Toyota pickup truck transmissions in the early ‘80s. It took three generations of changes
to reach the final, stronger design for 4x4s and diesel models.
occurred with Aisin on the AX-15’s transition to a stronger fifth gear. Fifth is always the weakest gear in a
five-speed overdrive transmission.
If your AX-15 has
been rebuilt, it’s also possible that a mix of parts were involved. Regardless, if the transmission can
benefit from an available 5th gear upgrade, consider doing it. As you note, you’ll need to match up related
pieces and make sure that they are compatible.
See whether the
various synchronizer pieces were used with different gearsets. Aside from actually counting teeth or
measuring gear diameters and thicknesses, some research on AX-15 ratios may cast light. If you need details
here, I can make some ratio comparisons from year/model data.
42RLE Compression Braking Question
From: Norm F.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:57
To: '4WD Q & A'
Subject: RE: The 42RLE
Thanks for the info and recommendation on
the Full-Traction. I believe you mentioned Full-Traction in you ‘Jeep Bible.’ I am still curious as to your
thoughts on the long arm kit. I believe the long arm kit would provide great off-road capabilities, but how about
the highway friendliness?
I wish the 42RLE transmission had more down
hill engine braking in 4-wheel low than it does. Do you know of any kit or upgrade that is available for this
transmission that would enhance the downhill engine braking function of the 42RLE????
Reply from Moses...Gearing and
Automatic Transmission Compression Braking:
issue with any automatic is that the converter’s stall speed must be low enough to keep the torque converter hooked
up during compression braking. Converter slip at idle coupled with very slow vehicle speed create a coast mode with
virtually no compression braking. If you were to raise the engine rpm to engage the converter, with stock gearing
and bigger tires, the vehicle would accelerate rather than have compression braking.
So, the sensible fix, considering available
torque converters and practical stall speeds, is to lower the transfer case low-range ratio, especially if you go
to oversized tires with stock axle ratios. A lower low-range gear ratio would keep the converter engaged under
compression braking, also enabling a very slow crawl speed.
You’re in luck here if you want to go the
expense: The Rubicrawler from Advance Adapters, which happens to fit your TJ Rubicon model with 42RLE! This would
dramatically lower your low range reduction, allowing the engine and converter speeds to engage the converter
during compression braking—even with 35” tires and stock axle gearing. (You might want lower axle gearing, like
4.56:1, if you run 35” or larger tires; however, this would be for highway performance.) You would have ample
compression braking effect with the Rubicrawler gearing. See the article at the magazine site for details on the
2WD Versus 4WD AX-15 Transmissions
From: adam c.
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:23 PM
Subject: ax15 transmission
i have been reading the moses ludel's teardown
on the ax15 transmission and i have my case off. I have several gears torn up and have been looking for a used
transmission. My question is can i take a ax15 2 wheel drive and put my case on it to all my transfer case bolt up
or will there be more changes that will have to be made? thank you
Hi, Adam…The issue here would be the
output/mainshaft and the transfer case adapter. You need to confirm this before considering the 2WD version. If
your mainshaft and adapter will match up with 2WD internal parts, you could consider rebuilding your existing
transmission using needed gears from the 2WD transmission. Make sure ratios (tooth counts) and other details match
before attempting this.
An easier approach would be finding a used
AX-15 from a 4WD Wrangler or XJ Cherokee that will directly replace your current transmission. The AX-15 for an
NV/NP231 transfer case is not scarce. These transmissions were used from 1989 to the introduction of the NV3550 in
2000. Here are details from Advance Adapters, they carry brand new (not rebuilt) replacement AX-15 units in stock.
New might be wise if you plan to keep the Jeep (assuming this is a Jeep, not a Toyota) for a long
Trust this helps,
YJ Clutch Stack Height in
From: Brian W.
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 3:36 PM
Subject: Clutch Problems
I need some serious help.... I recently
replaced my transmission in my 92 YJ 5 speed manual along with new clutch and slave
cylinder. Once installed, I only had about 1 inch (at best) of clutch, I bled the system about 5-6 times
and still the same. I replaced the slave cylinder two additional times along with the master cylinder. I still
have no more than an inch of pedal. once I drive it for about 5 mins I have no
I don't know what else to do.... Is there
a chance that the bell housing may be longer on the new trans, or possibly a bad clutch kit?.... Any help or
ideas would be great. I've been working on this problem for about a month now and getting very discouraged.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, Brian…Glad to assist…If you do not
have enough release bearing travel to release the clutch fingers, there are several possibilities: 1) the clutch
cover fingers are not reaching outward far enough, 2) the release bearing collar is too short, 3) specified
clutch pedal height is important, 4) the master cylinder piston must be able to retract completely for a full
piston stroke and 5) the system must be properly bled.
Since you have a model with the
hydraulic release bearing, verify that this part has the correct length collar. The bearing should rest just off
the release fingers with the clutch pedal fully raised. Make sure the clutch disc is installed
correctly, with the splined hub facing the correct way! In backwards, the hub will effectively “thicken” the
disc stack height and make the clutch cover fingers retract. This would increase the
distance of travel for the release bearing.
Measure the height of the clutch pedal
from the floorboard to be sure you’re getting adequate piston/fluid charge when you depress the clutch pedal.
You should have a specified pedal height and specified release bearing free play when you first touch the pedal
lightly. You need enough movement of the clutch cover’s release fingers to disengage the
I’m assuming that you have bled the
system each time you open it up. There is a tube coming out of the bellhousing with a bleeder screw. Bleeding is
similar to a brake bleeding method.
Let’s go from here…I'm
Hydraulic Clutch Linkage and
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:47
Hello, I am considering buying
an 89 Wrangler with straight 6, Is there a kit available to change the internal hydraulic clutch release to
an external one,right now its not working and have to pump it to disengage clutch. Thank you for your
----- Original Message -----
From: 4WD Q & A
To: Clarence L.
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:05
Hi, Clarence…I have made this changeover with the use of a TJ
Wrangler (’97 to 2006) bellhousing, slave cylinder, cross-housing release arm and so forth. The change
requires the TJ’s bellhousing, slave cylinder, release arm, pivot ball, hydraulic line/tubing and so
This is considerable work, at least as much as replacing the current
hydraulic release bearing. Considering parts involved and cost, it would be less expensive to just
repair/replace the current hydraulic release bearing and stick with that
If you have further questions, please ask, Clarence…I can furnish a
parts diagram of the TJ Wrangler parts involved.
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 8:16
To: 4WD Q &
Thanks alot for the info. If
you have the time could you send me a parts list.There are alot of older YJ's around the area I live some are
pretty beat up.If the new release bearing lasts just as long or longer than the original I guess it would not
be worth it. I just do not like that part inside the bell housing. I'd like to inspect it often with a quick
look under the Jeep.
Hi, Clarence…Attached are two sets of clutch linkage and hydraulics
diagrams, one for the 1989 YJ Wrangler and the other for the 1997 TJ Wrangler. You can compare the
parts differences involved:
1989 YJ Clutch Linkage and
1997 TJ Wrangler Clutch Linkage &
These charts provide genuine Mopar part numbers for pieces you
need. Also, you will need to use the correct clutch disk and cover. I have added pages covering
the clutch details:
1987-90 YJ Wrangler Clutch
1997 TJ Wrangler
If you buy a quality replacement release bearing
and install then bleed it carefully, you’ll be happy with the results. These units can last over
AX-15 Transmission Oil
Sent: Wednesday, April 13,
2011 8:58 AM
Subject: Shift tower plate ax-15
I have removed my transmission for rebuild, and
in the process of removing the shift tower on the ax-15, there was a thin metal plate, rectangular in shape
under the shift tower, 4 holes in the corners where the bolts went through, with a round hole the size of the
shifter shaft end coupler ball cup, and it had a flared edge around the round hole, this piece was bent badly
and the round hole was out of round where the shift arm had dented it in after
the bushing had worn out.
Ireasoned that this was some sort of splash cover, but I can not find it on any mopar parts
list. And I have lost this plate to show the parts house, they think I am crazy at this point. Can you help
me i.d. this plate please?
Hi, Richard…The tin plate you describe is called a “shield” or oil
deflector. I searched each of the AX15 years to find the later
listing for the part you want: “Mopar #04864224 Shield, Transmission”. I generated and attached a PDF of the
13 pages involved with the AX15. Note that the layout mixes AX5 and AX15, so the part you need is on the last
You were not imagining, the late AX15 uses this deflector instead of
the cut paper gasket. There must have been an effort to reduce oil throw into the tower, although the earlier
versions with the square, open gasket seem to work well. In any event, your local Jeep dealer should be able
to help with that part number. By application, I used a 1999 TJ
RE/RH Automatic Transmission Quirks
From: Jack F.
Sent: Wednesday, April 13,
2011 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: 1999 Jeep Wrangler Question
My TJ Wrangler has a transmission "slip" when I get in the
Jeep after it sets for a week. When I first start it and put it in reverse there seems to be a "slipping"
which is probably more like a hesitation. The people at the transmission shop say that it might just be that
it takes a few moments for the fluid to get up to pressure after sitting that long. So either I give it extra
time to warm up or it has been foxed.
I use to do a lot of extreme exploring when I had my first
1974 CJ-5 and then got the used 1969 CJ-5 in the 1970's and 1980's, but these days with the 99 Wrangler and
what I do in the way of exploring and photography, it is mostly just old roads and trails. Most of those
places are in National Parks and Preserves so you can't find too many crazy places to go
Thanks again for all your
Hi, Jack…The hesitation after setting for some time is that the
torque converter does not charge with fluid in the Park position on these transmissions. I just did an
upgrade on our ‘05 Dodge Ram 3500 Cummins 4WD (bought new, 96K miles now) that we use for the magazine’s
The issue is that the converter is not charged, and the front pump
bushing can fail from lack of lube. This occurs if the vehicle starts in Park position (which everyone does
normally!) after setting for a period. To test the effect, start the engine in Neutral instead of Park. The
converter will quickly charge and provide fluid to the transmission’s components. You should discover that
the Jeep will shift into gear “immediately”, without the hesitation. The article will clarify and,
optimistically, save a lot of readers’ RH and RE Chrysler
Will pick it up after Moab…
Chrysler RE and RH transmissions are prone to this
problem, and I will address the issue on behalf of Jeep Wrangler owners (30/32RH transmissions). I took
photos as I rebuilt the valve body and installed upgrade components that eliminate this trouble. This is not
a “high performance” upgrade, merely a save-the-transmission from failing prematurely set of aftermarket
pieces. When I get back from the Moab EJS, and the dust settles, expect that
Correct Lube for YJ Wrangler AX
Transmissions and More!
Hi, Dave…Regarding transmission fluid, Mopar (Chrysler) has offered a
special gear lube for the AX-5 and AX-15 transmissions. The middle item in Illus. 55 is the Mopar lube for
the AX transmissions:
If this lube is not available, seek a lube equivalent. Toyota and
others use the AX-series transmissions, so there are OEM and aftermarket sources. The main concern is
lubricity and the compatibility of the lube with the synchronizers. If too viscous, the synchros will
balk from not providing proper braking action. Make sure the lube is specified for AX
Often the grinding associated with shifts on a YJ Wrangler are clutch
release issues. The clutch is not disengaging completely, and that can be a hydraulic release bearing problem
or even air in the clutch system that requires bleeding (like brakes). Try “pumping” the clutch pedal a
few times before moving the shifter, and see if the grinding resolves. If so, look to the release
bearing or slave cylinder/master cylinder, with bleeding the first remedy. Replacing the hydraulic
release bearing involves the same measures as a clutch replacement, so the clutch is often replaced at the
As for the transfer case, the 2-inch drop of the skid plate would be
the first place to look. This would misalign the shifter with the console positions and possibly
inhibit shifter movement. It is also possible that the shifter cannot move far enough to engage.
A simple check: Disconnect the linkage at the transfer case and manually shift the transfer case into its
various modes. If each mode works, and the shift detents hold their gear position, the problem is
linkage related. You may need to reshape the shift lever if you keep the skid plate
Dropping the skid plate two inches is substantial. Check the
driveline/U-joint angles. The recommended approach with a four-inch lift is a CV rear driveline and a slip
yoke eliminator. See my 4WD Mechanix
Magazine article on the NP231 SYE kit installation (article at
the YJ/TJ Workshop). You will also see the CV-driveline installation. If you need to rebuild the
transfer case, consider a rear CV-driveline and SYE kit at the same time.
A CV-driveline with SYE can eliminate the skid plate drop. The
process involves rotating the rear axle pinion upward as part of the conversion. (With a CV-driveline
conversion, the rear driveline’s rear U-joint angle should be 1.5-2 degrees. The CV-joint’s angle will
self-cancel.) With a 4-inch lift, the front driveline-to-skid plate clearance may require slight skid
plate modification when you remove the spacers.
I’m happy to answer further questions or clarify,
From: Dave C.
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 7:43
I have two questions I’m not sure of
the answer. I’m fairly sure my 1991 Wrangler has an AX-5 tranny, its mounted on a four cylinder. This jeep is
new to us and no manual was with it and I haven’t been able to find good solid answers on the internet so
What is the correct transmission
fluid that should be used in my manual 5 speed? I’m getting a slight grind when shifting from gear to gear,
no other noises present while driving. History of jeep is unknown.
It does have a four inch leaf spring
lift and it appears the last owner dropped the center skid plate with transmission two inches to make up for
the lift to reduce the shaft angle.
I have attempted to adjust the
transfer case shifter repeatedly and can’t seem to get to the position of 4 wheel low. When I go to 4 wheel
high it doesn’t seem to be in the correct position in the z-slot. It’s in between the positions. I have heard
of several possible issues. Bent fork, missing or worn bushing on forks, loose or worn
Your assistance in these issue would
be greatly helpful.
Thank you in
YJ Axle Disconnect Vacuum
Tim…Attached are the front axle vacuum diagram and two helpful
troubleshooting charts. The vacuum source is the intake manifold, presumed to be a fitting directly into
the intake manifold—another good reason to eliminate your intake manifold gasket
[Click here to download the vacuum
disconnect PDF: YJ Axle Vacuum
The flow chart is valuable; the vacuum diagrams are vague but at
least an overview. In the third page (4WD troubleshooting flow chart), at the right side, lower two items, the blocks
1) “Remove shift motor housing cover. Connect vacuum pump to shift
motor port. Replace shift motor if armature [actuator for shifting] does not move in and out
2) “Front axle will not connect.”
Note the use of that “vacuum pump”.
This is a common diagnostic tool for vacuum actuated devices and engine performance
diagnostics. The typical tool will read vacuum (like a vacuum gauge) and also create measurable vacuum with
its built-in hand pump.
From: Tim H.
Thursday, May 12, 2011 6:58 PM
To: 4WD Q & A
Subject: Re: shocks
I cannot determine the front axle
disconnect vacuum circuit for my '89 Wrangler. I would like to fix this once and for all. Can you provide
AX-15 Shifts Hard—Transmission
Issue or What Else?
From: Kevin W.
Monday, March 14, 2011 6:01 PM
Subject: ax15 transmission
step 10 of the attached link you mention the detent plugs, springs
and balls. Where can these items be purchased? I have searched the net far and wide
and found nothing...
any help appreciated
Mar 14, 2011 09:15:41 PM, qanda@4WDmechanix.com wrote:
Kevin, I thought there would
be a quick aftermarket answer, but no such thing! A good source for AX-15
parts, I went to 4WD Hardware's site and looked up the AX-15
You can get virtually everything—except the detent plugs and springs!
These springs and plugs are
typically provided in a "small parts kit" for transmission
rebuilding. Such kits are sold either by the manufacturer or
through aftermarket sources.
To simplify your search, I have attached a 1999
TJ Wrangler AX-15 parts diagram with the factory part numbers (Chrysler/Mopar) listed. Your
local Jeep dealer should be able to order these numbers and source the
springs, plugs and detent parts. If not
available, the numbers will be useful when looking
for a small parts kit through an official Aisin Warner warehouse
Adapters deals directly with Aisin Warner (selling new AX-15 transmissions at a smoking deal!). They may be able
to recommend an Aisin Warner distributor
I chose 1999 at random, as you did not
mention what year Wrangler or Cherokee you own. I can furnish other model
years, older if necessary, although these parts should interchange.
Reply from Kevin
From: Kevin W.
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:46
Subject: Re: RE: ax15 transmission
I actually found them
on www.vintagejeepparts.com. The hardest part was
determining what they were called on the parts diagrams. I have seen them referred to as locker balls, poppet
lock balls and springs, etc. When I saw your site last night and read "detent springs and
balls", i started searching on that, then cross-referenced a couple of parts diagrams and
web sites, and found what I was looking for—with the exception of the
reverse detent spring (it is smaller than the other 3). Once I had a real part number, I searched for a site
with reasonable cost and shipping and VJP seemed a decent choice. I will do a little more searching for the
reverse spring tonight. Although shifting into reverse was not a problem, it was getting into the forward
gears (and sometimes out) that was the issue. I just hope that these parts are the problem (someone told me this
was a common problem, and the springs and balls were sometimes a solution). I do not want to buy a tranny if I can help it!
If this is not the problem, do you have any
other ideas on what the issue could be? In general the problem I have is it's hard to shift into the gears (I
think 3rd was the worst, or maybe 2nd, it's been awhile since I drove it). But once in gear, it runs
fine. When shifting it seems to go in easier if I wait a couple of seconds after pushing in the clutch pedal
and then pulling it into gear. I have already put in a new clutch and slave cylinder with no
It is a 1991 wrangler
Thanks for your help
Moses adds some additional YJ Wrangler
From: 4WD Q & A
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: RE: ax15
Jeep have gear clash noises when shifting between gears or is
it just difficult shifting? It sounds like insufficient
clutch plate disengagement from the flywheel or crankshaft pilot bearing drag. Clutch disk drag will
cause the symptoms you describe.
Did you have the flywheel resurfaced? Did
you carefully bleed the slave throwout bearing? Try pumping the clutch
pedal several times, and see if the shifter moves more easily into gear. If so, there is either air in the
clutch system, or the clutch master cylinder is leaking down.
Pumping the clutch pedal can sometimes overcome
air in the system or a weak seal at the clutch master cylinder. As another clutch-related note, if your crankshaft pilot bearing drags on the nose end of the input gear of the
transmission, the symptom will be similar to the clutch not disengaging. This time delay for a smooth shift could be the
input gear still rotating with the clutch pedal depressed. When you
depress the clutch pedal, the input gear should come to a reasonably quick
stop, as the pilot bearing allows the crankshaft to rotate. If this is not the
will be difficult.
If there is gear clash despite a
clear separation (clearance) between the clutch disk and flywheel with the clutch
pedal depressed, the problem could be worn or damaged transmission synchronizers. However, if the transmission shifts
between gears without clash (once it actually shifts), the synchros are not the culprit. Make sure there
are no bearing noises coming from within the transmission. Bad
bearings can cause shaft and gear misalignment, which creates difficult shifting.
Unless the synchro rings have become damaged
from shifts without full clutch disengagement, your problem sounds more like a dragging clutch disk or partial
clutch disengagement. The cause could be insufficient hydraulic release bearing travel, a dragging pilot or a
warped flywheel. The detents and springs would be least likely to be the problem on a transmission that has
not been apart. If rebuilt somewhere along the way, that’s another story...
If you believe the transmission synchros are
okay, begin with the hydraulic clutch prospects. If the crankshaft pilot bearing, clutch assembly, hydraulic
release bearing and flywheel are okay, perform the clutch master cylinder tests.
Accessing the pilot bearing requires removal of
the transmission and transfer case—a lot of work! Rule out other
possibilities before plunging into the pilot bearing or flywheel. Avoid
replacing parts needlessly or performing unnecessary labor. Take this one step at a time.
Keep me posted, Kevin…
Identifying the Supply Cooler Line on
a 42RLE Automatic
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 10:26
Subject: Jeep Wrangler
I have never been able to get a
definitive answer to this question. On my 2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4.0L, which is the hot out and cool in lines
on the transmission? There is one line fitting higher than the other. I think the cool in fitting is the higher of
the two. Am I correct?
Response from Moses:
Hi, Mike...Good question! There
is absolutely no reference to the port orientation anywhere in the Jeep factory service or parts literature—I
looked thoroughly at TJ, JK and KJ model information! From the transmission and cooler layout, the
upper rear port should be the supply line to the cooler. The lower (slightly forward) port should be
Perform this check: With the
transmission warmed from a short drive (not hot from a heavy load) and the engine running at an idle in Park,
carefully feel the two lines. Be sure you're in Park and set the parking brake securely before crawling
under the vehicle! Caution: The supply line will be very hot if the transmission has been under load, so be
The supply line should be noticeably
warmer. If you have access to a heat sensing gun, you can perform this test without touching the lines
and get a true sense for how well the cooler works. Perform a heat gun check at the tubes near the
cooler to see the exact number of degrees difference the cooler
Additional question from Mike
From: Mike W.
Monday, March 14, 2011 11:13 AM
To: 4WD Q & A
Subject: Re: Jeep Wrangler 42rle
have not gotten around to the transmission yet. I was wondering what you think the longest run for
transmission cooler lines could be. I want to move my TC to the rear of my
Reply from Moses:
From: 4WD Q & A
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:11 PM
To: 'Mike W'
Subject: RE: Jeep Wrangler 42rle
Good question, Mike...Since you're
relying upon transmission pump pressure to circulate fluid, there is a slight pressure drop and extra load
with distance. One gain is that the lines themselves would dissipate additional heat, although not a
There are two traditional mounting
strategies with a transmission cooler: 1) using the engine's cooling system and fan to
draw air through the cooler and 2) a freestanding cooler relying upon ambient air for surface to air
cooling. I have always mounted the cooler behind the radiator. Although air heats as it passes through
the radiator core, this is still better than heating up the engine by placing the cooler in front of the
radiator core. My approach is to use constantly moving air while minimizing the effect of heated
radiator air...Considering that the Jeep is crawling at a snail's pace when the heat is highest, additional
air flow is essential!
Another approach worth considering is a
Derale auxiliary cooler with an electric fan system: http://www.derale.com/. Derale has kits for
YJ and TJ Wrangler models. You may get some ideas here. By using its own fan, the cooler does not
impact or rely upon the OEM radiator and cooling system. You could even use a thermal switch to cycle
the trans cooler fan automatically. Take a look at this
Let me know how you do
Differences Between the Chrysler 999
and 32RH Automatics
From: Norman M.
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:59 AM
Love your website. I have a question about Jeep Automatic transmission compatability.
I have a 1991 YJ, automatic with a 4.0L engine. I found a good used automatic transmission locally that is from a
98 TJ Jeep wrangler w/ 4.0L engine. Are they going to be the same transmission? Or at least, will it bolt up and
work with my Jeep? If so, is it a straight bolt up job, or do I have a swap a few things? Thank you
Feb 28, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Moses Ludel at "4WD Q & A" qanda@4WDmechanix.com replies:
Thanks for the kudos, Norman! Enjoy the
new forum and the variety of tech and special Jeep interest features at the website…
The ’91 YJ and ’98 TJ each use variations of the durable 904/999 Chrysler
Torqueflite. The ’98, however, is electronically controlled. This is the model 32RH in 4.0L applications.
Since your YJ has a 4.0L with pre-OBDII emissions and troubleshooting, you would not have the interface between
your PCM (computer) and the later transmission. The PCMs and their pin-count differ, the wiring harnesses are
different, and you would not get the 32RH shift functions to work in your earlier chassis.
So, despite the “bolt-up” similarities, these are distinctly different eras of
electronics and shift controls. Some owners find it useful to swap the AW4 (Aisin-Warner four-speed with
overdrive) from an XJ Cherokee into the Wrangler. This gains an overdrive, and the AW4 is a rugged unit. If you
stick with a 1995-back transmission, the PCMs would be similar, too. Take a look at the many XJ Cherokees at
recycling yards and compare the differences. Measure the length of the transmission and adapter, from the
engine block to the back of the transfer case, and compare. This should be very close if not right on.
The YJ and XJ Cherokee share many components and fit ups.
I trust this helps. My choice would be the gain of an AW4’s overdrive, especially
with current fuel prices!
Further reply from Norman M.:
From: Norman M.
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 2:51 PM
To: 4WD Q & A
Subject: Re: JEEP
you said makes complete sense. Now, the shift points in the OBDII trans are controlled by the pcm, correct? Not a
seperate TCU? So, that means there are shift solenoids on the newer trans's valve body, that the old one doesnt
have. Could this possibly be the only difference, and a simple swapping of valve bodies from old to new could make
it work? Im only pushing this because im getting the '98 trans for free, so i would like to try and make it work.
Sent from my
Answer from Moses
understand the lure of the “price is right”…
to the 30/32RH as a redesign of the A999. Officially the 32RH designation occurs in late 1991. (Check your YJ’s
build date.) This early version is a non-lock-up converter. All TJ applications through 2002 are 32RH with lockup
converter and electronic controls. To clarify, I have attached PDFs of an OEM parts list for 1991 (A999) and
drawing breakouts of the earlier and later 32RH. Compare these applications and illustrations by their individual
part numbers. See what differs and which pieces interchange.
would invest in a rebuild kit and go through your YJ’s automatic transmission. Freshened up, it will last
indefinitely. One observation about the TJ era 32RH is its passion for cavitating on steep slopes, starving the
transmission for oil and cooking the clutches, bushings and bands. Even if free and allegedly in good condition, a
30/32RH should be checked over thoroughly for signs of off-road damage. Start with looking at the fluid and
smelling for burnt oil and frictions. Debris in the oil pan should be checked carefully.
Happy to continue
this exchange if you need more details, Norman. I have a horde of information on hand…
Father and Son Project: 1991 YJ Wrangler
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:22 PM
Subject: 1991 YJ Wrangler
Mr. Ludel, My son just purchased his first Jeep and I
need to purchase a manual for it. Can you recommend the best maintenance manual for his
YJ Wrangler? I am having some 4wd engagement issues.
Sometimes it will engage and sometimes it won't. I have determined it's in the transmission. It's
been a long time since I have worked on a Jeep in fact my last Jeep
was a 1971 Renegade II with the V-6. The YJ does have a manual transmission. Looking forward to hearing from you.
You, Dave &
Reply from Moses
Hi, Dave and Kurtis…Sounds like a lot of fun ahead! The
’91 is an excellent model. MPI (EFI) was a substantial improvement for the inline sixes and
an upgrade for the 2.5L fours. The 4.0L and 2.5L are each excellent
My first recommendation is always a factory (Mopar/genuine
Jeep) service manual. Your book may be available at the TechAuthority II website. There is a
full page discussion of TechAuthority at the magazine website,
click here for details.
If a new manual (print or CD form) is not available through
TechAuthority, you can often find factory shop manuals at Ebay and the many used
automotive book outlets online. I recommend sticking with the
official Jeep shop manual, not an aftermarket manual, for the kind of information that you want. A
YJ Wrangler service manual in the 1991-95 range will serve you
Use my magazine Q & A when necessary. There is a
new reader forum at the website that just went up over the weekend. You can also run a “wanted” ad
in the free private party classifieds at the website (for the service
manual or other used items).
As a tip, two 1991 YJ Wrangler areas that you might assess
are the front axle’s vacuum disconnect system and the hydraulic clutch release
bearing. The hydraulic release bearing may need attention, possibly
not disengaging the clutch fully. The front axle disconnect has vacuum actuation and often
gets out of sorts and neglected…
TJ Wrangler Could Use a
From: John W.
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 7:38 PM
HI I HAVE A 1998 JEEP TJ 4.0 WITH A AX15. I
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF I CAN REPLACE THE AX15 WITH A 42RLE SO I CAN USE THE RUBI CRAWLER. I HAVE A A/A
5.0 T-CASE. WILL THIS WORK? OR SHOULD I JUST BUY A 03 JEEP WITH 42RLE?
THANK YOU JOHN
Hi, John…The changeover with your current Jeep would be involved. You would
need all of the hardware (PCM), wiring, the 42RLE, the shift mechanism (you might use the Advance Adapters
shifter), the flexplate/starter ring, and on and on. Also, the ’98 engine has a distributor ignition, the ’03
would have coil-on-plug. This would be an interface issue for the computer. Given all of the obvious and
hidden challenges, I would look for a 2003-up model with 42RLE, preferably a Rubicon TJ, to get the front and rear
lockers and Dana 44 axles. Sounds like the only item you might want to keep would be the A/A transfer case,
although the Rubicon has a hefty transfer case with 4:1 low range already; with the use of a Rubicrawler, you would
have remarkably low gearing. The Rubicon TJ also has 4.10 axle gearing. Sounds good, I’d
Considering the Jeep
Wrangler Automatic Transmission Adjustment Needs
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 4:23 PM
Subject: Tj wrangler
hey, i had a transmission question on my 98 tj automatic wrangler
4.0. I have read your technical layout on how to adjust the bands in the transmission, but im not sure which
exactly transmissoin i have? Is it a must to torque the screw adjusters or is it possible to go by a number of
turns on the screw. I dont have a torque wrench.
The problem im having is a slight slippage when the vehicle is in drive and
i increase the the throttle and accelerate from 10 to 20mph after that the vehicle runs great. Do you have
any suggestions on what may be wrong? Oil has recently been changed and is filled
From: 4WD Q & A
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 7:04
Subject: RE: Tj wrangler question
Hi, Paul…Your Wrangler’s transmission is a 32RH design. This is essentially
an electronically controlled version of the Chrysler 999/904. Despite their 3-speed without overdrive arrangement,
the 30RH and 32RH units are rugged and reliable. One issue has been cavitation or aeration of fluid when the
transmission starves for fluid on extreme inclines. This can cause damage if the transmission slips under load
while starving for fluid. I look for this kind of trauma in a used 30RH/32RH equipped
If your problem is 2nd gear related, it could be a front band
adjustment need. Slip in any drive position can be a worn rear clutch pack, which requires rebuilding to remedy.
You do not mention engine speed flare-up on shifts or otherwise, and this is a good sign. If there is flare-up, the
clutches and/or bands are usually beyond saving. Burnt fluid is a sign of a worn out clutch pack(s) and/or
In any case, since the fluid and filter (presumably) are fresh, I would
adjust the bands to spec. For band adjustment, the torque wrench is to seat the band lightly and precisely before
backing out the adjuster screw a specific number of turns. If you can approximate the torque called for when
seating the band, go for it. If you doubt your ability to simulate this amount of torque, then you do need
an inch-pound torque wrench.
Use the Chrysler/Jeep specifications for number of turns to back
off the adjuster. Always hold the adjuster steadily while tightening/torquing the jam nut. The number of
turns is exact, so don’t guess on this one. Band adjustment determines the “timing” of the band take-up and
also determines how well the band grips the drum. Each band has its own clearance-to-drum, determined by the
number of turns backed off from a seated position…
Generally, if a band(s) require much adjustment, there is a problem.
Adjustment is slight over the entire lifespan of an automatic transmission. (This is not like a manual clutch with
its thick lining and big surface area!) If an automatic transmission band exhibits any more than slight wear, it’s
in trouble! Note the amount of adjustment needed—that indicates the wear.
Do you have the band adjustment specs for your 32RH? If not write me
December 13, 2010 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: Tj wrangler
I do not have the band adjustment
specs for the trsnsmission. I would appreciate if you had any information that would be useful in making these
The transmission does fine when i accelerate from a really slow speed from
0-20 mph and also does fine at higher speeds, even in the upper 60 and 70
I do not hear any high reving when the trany is shifting from one gear to
another. 1st and 2nd gears do fine. The only problem i am noticing is when i acelerate from 0 to about 20 mph at a
pretty fast rpm range, when i go slow it seems fine.Its alomost as if you can feel the belts trying to (grab
and slip grab and slip) kind of action and a little bit of a jerking. Does this sound like any problems that you
have encounterd and do you think the band adjustment will prevent this.
Thank you for your fast
From: 4WD Q & A [mailto:qanda@4WDmechanix.com]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 8:22
Subject: RE: Tj wrangler question
You’re welcome, Paul…The “slip” under throttle and not
when coaxed up to speed can be rear clutch slippage. This would require an overhaul to repair. When an
automatic transmission slips, band or clutch damage builds up quickly. The plates are sensitive and thinly
lined; the bands have limited lining and room for only minor
When you changed fluid, was the fluid dark (not
reddish) or did it smell burnt? That would be a sign of clutch and band slip. Also, was there friction
material, in quantity, in the oil pan of the transmission? If so, not a good sign. These are signs of fatigue and
significant wear. Slight friction material, those darker streaks of oil at the base of the pan, is normal. Friction
material that you can feel between your fingers is not…Metal in any quantity is always suspect, especially
fragments or chunks.
If a band is slipping under load, adjusting right away
can sometimes be the fix. You cannot “adjust” the clutch packs, they are hydraulically actuated and spring
counterbalanced. If you adjust the bands and the problem persists at the speed you describe, I would suspect a
rear clutch issue.
A topic we did not discuss was the throttle valve
linkage. Check this cable linkage and its adjustment. If downshifts and “passing gear” do not work well,
suspect a throttle valve cable adjustment or cable wear problem. Unless damaged or loosened from the engine,
these cables usually do not cause trouble, but slippage raises the question of throttle valve
Try adjusting the bands regardless. Carefully note the
number of turns inward to seat each band. If the turns inward to gently seat each band exceed the factory
adjustment turns by a lot, there is significant band wear.
I have attached the adjustment procedures* for your
32RH transmission. Adjustments that could affect the shifts and slippage include the gearshift cable (must be
indexing each gear properly), the throttle valve cable, the front and rear bands, and the control pressure
adjustment, which is rare but significant. You will see these steps and descriptions in my attachment. If
adjustments do not stop the problem, suspect an internal clutch pack and/or band problem that requires a
This should help separate issues and nail down your
32RH troubles. As a footnote, make sure the transmission cooler works well. If you do work on your TJ
Wrangler often, try to locate a factory 1998 Jeep Wrangler Service
Manual. These manuals pop up used on Ebay and are available through used
automotive book sources as well. (Mopar may still offer a printed or CD version of this manual.) I buy these
manuals for reference books whenever they are available (often at an automotive swap meet). They are
packed full of details and procedures…
*For a PDF
download copy of the 30RH and 32RH factory adjustment procedures, covering all possible adjustment
needs, click here.
‘97 Jeep TJ Automatic Transmission
Hi, I have a ‘97 TJ with a bad transmission. We drive it on the street
and mountain trails with rock climbing. It has a 4.0L engine, Dana 44's w/4:88's running 39" Swampers and a 10”
long-arm suspension lift. I purchased it set up this way. I’d like a quote to rebuild the transmission, both stock
and a buildup based on your recommendations. I was told the transmission has a stall converter @ 2400 rpm, which I
have no need for. Looking forward to hearing from you and thanks.
Curt, the stall speed is way too high for trail running and fuel
efficiency. You have 4:88s to compensate for the tire diameters. The converter would need rebuilding and a
restoration to a reasonable stall speed. Actually, I prefer an 800-950 rpm hold speed for preventing rollback on
slopes at near idle speed and to provide proper compression braking. (Idle speed should be the determining factor.)
I select a stall speed that will create this dynamic. A deeper sump oil pan and matching filter depth will help
reduce risk of dangerous aeration on these early TJ units when climbing
On my bench, I would thoroughly restore your 32RH transmission using
premium upgrade friction materials, quality bearings and thrusts. All tolerances would be restored and corrected. A
“blueprint” rebuild would cost in the range of $2600-$3200 plus return freight and would include the custom
converter work plus all available upgrades. (You have a lockup converter, which costs somewhat more to rebuild and
balance.) This is ballpark figure dependent upon the condition of existing hard parts within the transmission,
Curt. We would welcome your project.
Troubled YJ and TJ Automatic
I have a ’97 Jeep Wrangler with a 32RH automatic, Currie high-pinion 9”
axles and 4.56:1 gearing with ARB lockers, three-speed transfer stack-box and stock 4.0L engine. I need
professional advice or suggestions about the best option: The 32RH has been good, but it has to come out. So, what
would you do?—Nick
My ‘91 YJ 4.0L has an automatic. The transmission needs a rebuild. We
use the Jeep for a combination of street-driving and off-road wheeling. We have the Rubicon in mind. I'm interested
in upgrades you would suggest for the transmission. Are there shift kits available? Is it possible to change the
gearing to provide better wheeling? Would changing 1st gear provide some gear ratio upgrades without the need to
substantially change axle ratios? Sometime in the future, I also have a transfer case swap in mind, which should
improve gearing as well.—Brad P.
Brad, your questions coincide with some of Nick’s concerns, so I’ll
start by sharing that the YJ’s A999 three-speed is a non-electronic shift version of the transmission that
Nick’s TJ uses. Both designs have roots in Chrysler’s rugged A904 Torqueflite three-speed, which worked well
in full-size cars with lower output V-8s. While not quite the A727 Torqueflite of renown, the 904 did an
excellent job for Chrysler and AMC. Brad, since you already have considered a transfer case swap, I suggest
that unless you need overdrive, the quickest means for getting better off-pavement performance would be a
blueprint build of the A999 with either a lower-gearing kit for your NP231 transfer case or an Advance
Adapters’ Atlas assembly with lower gearing in low range. The blueprint rebuild of the A999 can include
upgrades of all friction materials and even a mild “shift kit” for improved shift performance. As the torque
converter needs a rebuild, there is room for a stall speed change here for improved back-country performance
in terms of compression braking and crawling on rocks. Our shop can do blueprint rebuilding of these A999 and
32RH transmissions; we take care of the converter work and balancing, too…
Nick, you have a rugged TJ—nice equipment! I blueprint build both the
30RH and 32RH series automatics to perform very well in your driving environment. An option is the AW-4
conversion, mostly using XJ Cherokee components. I can build an AW-4 to perform well, too, and you would have
the added bonus of overdrive…Regarding the AW-4 conversion, the concerns would be transmission length,
linkage and driveline lengths. Electronics, including the engine management computer, also need
consideration. Some XJ donor models use the same PCM plug and harness features as your TJ. Parts interchange
to a large degree between the TJs and XJs; however, the AW-4 uses its own shift controller. I would build a
"blueprint" AW-4, using premium parts intended for your TJ’s rugged service. The AW-4 is tough and could hold
up well in your application. This might be a reasonable way to get a fresh transmission and an overdrive 4th
gear. It would be necessary to iron out the PCM and wiring issues; perhaps an XJ harness and an XJ computer
could be the bridge here. After testing and proving out the conversion thoroughly, if we were satisfied that
this is a viable option, I would consider building up a core bank and peripheral parts for packaging such a
conversion. Overall, I like the AW-4 transmission design and believe this could be the fix if a simpler “kit”
approach were possible. TJ three-speed automatics are tough but lack an overdrive 4th gear for highway
Another angle is the late TJ 42RLE automatic with overdrive—if this
is not a major undertaking. The 42RLE is a tough unit, used in the KJ Liberty as well. A donor model would be
the ’03-’06 TJ with low mileage. Such a swap begins with a thorough comparison of parts differences between a
’97 TJ and the last generation TJ. Items would include electronics, drivelines, shifter and transfer case
positioning differences, wiring harnesses, shift module accommodations and the PCM. Powertrain management
provides an engine and transmission interface via electronics. The sensors cover wheel speed, engine load,
transmission gearing needs and a host of other inputs. Today, swapping an electronically controlled
transmission is as much an electrical challenge as a mechanical feat. For that reason, it is sometimes easier
to do a G.M. 700R-4 conversion into a TJ than to use a factory transmission that requires electronic circuits
and a PCM interface…If owners have an interest in these automatic transmission conversions, I can cover them
in tech features. Let me know!
JK Wrangler Rubicon Axles for a TJ or
I’ve heard that complete JK Rubicon axle assemblies are available from
the factory. I have a ’98 TJ model, and one of our Jeep club members has a ’92 Wrangler. Would these axles fit? Are
they complete with the lockers and disc brakes? How complete and what installation work is involved here? Will they
fit both of our Jeep models?
Bob, you’ve heard about the best deal going! Mopar Performance began
this program a few years ago. These axles are genuine Rubicon JK Dana 44s and other factory
performance-oriented axles straight off the assembly line. Complete packages even include brake rotors and
calipers—yes, a ready-to-go axle assembly!
The JK Rubicon assemblies have 61.9” track width, 4.10 gear sets and
5 on 5” wheel bolt patterns. A major advantage of this setup is off-the-shelf Mopar service parts
access—exactly the parts you would order for a comparable JK Rubicon!
Wider than stock CJ, YJ, XJ or TJ axle housings, these axles help
compensate for a vehicle height increase. Instead of relying solely on a change in wheel offset, you get
approximately 2.5” of added axle width at each side! If you lift the vehicle to run large tires, wider axles
are the best way to restore center-of-gravity. Ratios of 4.10:1 (Dana 44s and 60s) and 4.56:1 (Dana 60s) are
available to meet users’ needs.
For those planning massive wheel and tire packages or out-and-out
high performance use, check out the Dana 60 axles. These rugged axle assemblies meet rigorous Mopar
Performance standards. Imagine the stamina of factory J8 or Ram Power Wagon® axles! (Download the
April and May 2010 back-issues of 4WD Mechanix Magazine for more
details! Click here for access to these PDF downloads.)
Current pricing is highly competitive. Best yet, these assemblies are
the same engineering and quality you can expect from a spanking new Jeep Wrangler Rubicon model or Ram truck!
Your local Jeep or Mopar Performance dealer can order any of the assemblies offered, and as official Mopar
Performance products, the axles come with a Mopar parts warranty.
If you go this route, axle housing fitment to an earlier chassis is
the purchaser’s responsibility. This can entail relocating or changing out spring pads and other attachments.
Look at your current model’s chassis, and compare it to a stock JK Rubicon layout. Consider all of the needs,
including the brake hoses, steering linkage, shock mounts, spring perches and track bar
For this changeover, also take into account the rear axle pinion
angle and front axle’s caster angle when setting up the chassis. Front axle caster angle and the pinion
(driveline/U-joint) angles are critical. Follow the factory specifications for the chassis. Align the axles
Mopar Performance targeted the CJ, YJ, TJ and JK models. (Some JK
owners want Dana 60 axle upgrades.) Among the available packages are axles already set up for a TJ or JK
chassis. For other installations, expect cutting, alignment and welding work. (If you do your own
fabricating, the XJ Cherokee could be a candidate, too.) Make your axle installations safe and reliable! If
you lack welding and fabricating skills—or equipment—consider subletting the axle installations to a welding
and fabricating shop. Note: Welding and metals fabrication, including chassis work, are ongoing topics
in 4WD Mechanix Magazine. You will need these skills for safe, reliable upgrades.
Mopar Performance now offers several cost-saving axle options,
including extreme duty (J8 and Power Wagon) application Dana 60s. Look closely for the equipment, ratios and
stamina that your Jeep requires. Consider these currently available packages and
P5153825—Rubicon front axle…(Superseded to
P5153826—Jeep Wrangler Rubicon axle with locking differential,
locking sensor, 4.10 ratio, disc brakes and mounting brackets.
P5153827—This JK Rubicon 44 axle comes completely assembled with 4.10
gear, disc brakes, and locking differential.
P5155252—Axle, Front Assembly, Dana 44, 2007-09 Jeep Wrangler, 4.10
Locking Differential, Without Brakes
P5155256—Axle, Front Assembly, Dana 44, JK, Modified for
P5155084— Axle, Front Assembly,
J8, Dana 44, 5 on 5.5 Hub, with Open Differential
P5153826AB—Axle, Rear Assembly,
2007-09 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 4.10 Ratio, Locking Differential
P5155257—Axle, Rear Assembly, Dana 44, JK, Modified For
P5155260—Axle, Rear Assembly, Dana 60, J8, 4.10 Limited Slip, 5 x
5.50" and 5 x 5.0" Bolt Pattern, Modified For JK
P5155083—Axle, Rear Assembly, J8,
Dana 60, 5 on 5.5 Hub, Limited Slip Differential, Leaf Spring
P5155087AB—Axle, Front Assembly, Stock Power Wagon, 4.56 Ratio, With
P5155088AB—Axle, Rear Assembly, Stock Power Wagon, 4.56 Ratio,
For more details on these axle products and the latest part
number availability and supersedures, check out the Mopar Performance catalog. For access to the latest
catalog, including the ‘Trail’ section for your Jeep 4x4, simply click
here! Contact your local Jeep dealership or a
Mopar Performance dealer for pricing.